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Michael Jackson Neverland "ghost" solved

Tuesday July 7, 2009
Larry King and CNN solve the controversy surrounding the alleged "ghost" of Michael Jackson videotaped at Neverland Ranch. They say it's the shadow of a worker walking in front of a light. Go watch.

Comments

July 8, 2009 at 2:50 am
(1) Wendy says:

I disagree. After watching a close-up it looks too 3D, and it doesn’t look like it is coming from the back room, but passing through the doorway at the side of the hallway.

July 8, 2009 at 9:01 am
(2) Rich says:

I suppose too Wendy that the ghost of the chandelere(?) throughout the whole clip is really a ghost too.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

July 8, 2009 at 9:59 am
(3) Ian says:

I cannot tell for sure whether it is a ghost or not from the video. Even though that it has officially been reported as “solved” as a shadow, it doesn’t really matter because they never actually admit and say it could have been a ghost. But who knows if it is a ghost or not? Without being at the location of the filming and sensing for a ghost, we will most likely never agree if it as ghost or not. In a situation like this, I think it is best to just keep an open-mind without jumping to a conclusion to either side.

July 8, 2009 at 10:41 am
(4) Rich says:

Ian are you saying that the chandelere shadow could be a ghost too?

July 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm
(5) Chris says:

It’s not a ghost because ghost’s dont exist you stupid people!!! Grow up take a look at things in life that matter.

July 8, 2009 at 3:12 pm
(6) Rich says:

Hey Chris, to call someone that you don’t know “Stupid” because they don’t see things your way is like me saying that “your mother is stupid for not swallowing you!” It’s an incredibly bold statement with no basis. Your the one who needs to grow up. If this all bothers you that much then you should kill yourself.

July 8, 2009 at 7:26 pm
(7) Ian says:

Relax. Relax Rich. Who cares if that kid doesn’t believe in ghosts, and who cares if he calls you “stupid”. Don’t be so easily offended.

And to answer your earlier question about that chandelere shadow Rich, was I even speaking about that chandelere shadow? No I wasn’t. Also, as I said earlier we have no way of knowing if that “ghostly figure” was in fact a shadow or not. That is why I said it is best to purely keep an open mind to it.

One last thing Rich. You telling that kid to commit suicide proved that you need to do some growing up as well. Everybody has the right to have freewill and an opinion so if he chooses not to believe in ghosts you should respect that.

July 8, 2009 at 8:08 pm
(8) Rich says:

Ian, only a retard would think that because the shape of the figure was human that it’s a ghost and if that is the case then the shadow that’s exactly the same of the chandelere would by the same reasoning be a ghost too.You can’t have it both ways, use your head. For your information the only reason that i wrote those things was so that Chris would feel as offended as I did by him calling me stupid. It was purely for effect and by you sticking your nose in I got the effect from you. If you really think that that is a ghost I feel sorry for your mother for not swallowing you. Go kill yourself.

July 8, 2009 at 8:12 pm
(9) Ian says:

I am laughing here reading your post. Expect to attract negative entities thinking like that.

July 10, 2009 at 12:49 am
(10) HollyHood says:

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!such a debate. You all should just take it a little slower. Give yourself a chance to breath.

July 10, 2009 at 12:56 am
(11) Sam says:

I think Rich is sooooo right. It is the Chandelere. I mean, come on. The person looks just like the shadow from the chandelere. I mean, I haven’t actaully watched the video yet, but I pretty much know everything…just like Rich.

July 10, 2009 at 1:10 am
(12) HollyHood says:

you know what Sam, your kind of dumb. How can you know what anything looks like unless you have actually seen it…come on, it’s not rocket science. Anyways, I dont have time for this, I just got myself a chili dog and I rather be talking to that than talking to someone dumb…like you Sam. See, I can be sarcastic like you too!

July 10, 2009 at 8:01 am
(13) Rich says:

Sam, Take a look at the video and give your honest opinion as I did. The fact that there appears to be another shadow in the same shot tells me the figure is a shadow too. People have said that T.A.P.S should do an investigation, I’m sure Jay and Grant have already seen this clip, but we’ll have to wait for their conclusion.Don’t let anything HollyHood says bother you, He talks to chilidogs.

July 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm
(14) Rich says:

I am so stupid. I like to eat penis salad.

July 10, 2009 at 4:20 pm
(15) Louise says:

Thats the smartest thing you’ve said so far Rich!

July 10, 2009 at 4:54 pm
(16) Simas says:

How did this turned from CNN answer to the shadow into a fight??!! Hey, personally i don`t believe in ghost`s but who knows?? You`re adults (i think) so, have the behavior of one!

July 11, 2009 at 7:39 am
(17) wyd says:

i dont wanna believe ghost. but many ppl have met something like we later call ghost. so i think ghost might be found somewhere. if he was michael, that’s fine. everyone in neverland loves michael and it would be forever….

July 11, 2009 at 10:10 am
(18) Rich says:

Louise, I’m sure you realize that I didn’t write comment #14(I think maybe it was you, the addition of the word salad tells me they’re female) It was written by someone that I made feel really small and because they had no argument,got pissed and they made that post or have been reading them and that’s the best they could come up with.If you didn’t see the shadow of the chandelere than that’s your fault, your retarded or your not detail oriented.I didn’t get fooled you did.Everybody’s a tough guy on the internet.

July 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm
(19) Louise says:

Of course i knew it wasen’t you. i really dont think you get sarcasm do you? i was trying to point out the fact everything you’ve said is utter tosh, and that was the smartest comment made. And for god sake, stop calling people retarded, i know you hurting inside – but please, get help. MJ’S THE BEST!

July 13, 2009 at 10:48 am
(20) Rich says:

Louise , you really entered this conversation just too give me sarcasm?It’s a fact MJ settled out of court for millions of dollars with his accusers twice.TWICE.Fact, not utter tosh.Your reference to god explains why you feel the way you do about MJ. If you want to go to heaven you believe you HAVE to show the goodness of your heart towards EVERYONE or you feel you won’t get into heaven, that’s very sad following someone else’s beliefs kind of like a puppet and you think I need help. It’s too bad you can’t speak of your own free will. MJ was a child molesting,pill popping-half plastic freak.The use of the word Retard isn’t used in the sense of a soft helmet and short yellow bus it refers to thought process.Lets remember this post started off as a discussion of a supposed ghost, but everyone just wants to add their opinions about the “man”. Well MJ is burning in hell for all eternity and he will laugh at his accusers and his fans forever. As for me getting help at your advice I think i’ll keep my own beliefs and not conform to what others might believe. If there is anyone who believes that MJ never did anything that he settled out of court for “YOU ARE RETARDED AND SHOULD KILL YOURSELF” If you don’t want to believe he was evil knowing that he did these things that’s fine, that’s a different discussion.stay out of conversations that you have no ground to stand on. We are not alone in the universe, Oj DID kill nicole and God did not create the earth in 7 days and Michael Jackson went straight to hell. Oh,and it’s still just a shadow.

July 13, 2009 at 12:46 pm
(21) karen corson says:

wow! i dont belive i have ever read anything so nasty and so vile! sombody has died, sombodys father, sombodys son, sombodys friend, a human being! please show some respect. r.i.p. michael xxxx

July 13, 2009 at 1:08 pm
(22) kevin wood says:

Rich, I am disgusted at what you have said. You have just made it clear to the millions of MJ fans of just how much of a bastard you are. If you had a brain in your scull and opened up your ears to the world you would realise that Jordan Chandler has pubically admitted to that MJ didn’t go near or abuse him in any way, also the second allegation was NOT setteled out of court or maybe you want to argue that with the 3.2 billion who watched the jury give the INNOCENT verdict!! I guess that blows everything you just ranted about out the water. You have probably become the most hated person in the world. I think You are a jealous little Fuck who needs to stop slagging off the innocent and get a life worth living. Say what you think instead of hiding like the coward you are behing your computer screen, I would love to see how long you’d last. Your mother must be proud of you!

July 13, 2009 at 1:22 pm
(23) jen says:

r.i.p. michael

July 13, 2009 at 1:35 pm
(24) kevin says:

Rich, What you have said is disgusting and shows just how jealous you are. I am having to refrain from swearing so this can be posted! If you had a brain in your scull and opened your ears to the world you would know that Jordan Chandler has pubically admitted that MJ didn’t abuse him and as for the second case, 3.2 Billion people watched the jury give the INNOCENT VERDICT. how is this an out of court settlement? I think you need to grow a pair and instead of hiding behing your computer screen like the coward you are go into the street and say what you think. I would love see what would happen. Your mother must be proud. What a boring life you must lead!!!!!

July 14, 2009 at 11:39 am
(25) Louise says:

You are one of the most disgusting men i have ever spoken to. In all seriousness, get help. please. you really arnt ok in the head are you? You believe what you want to beleive, but we all have an opinion. That opinion is Michael Jackson was one of the most amazing entertainers to ever live, and his life deserves to be celebrated, not put down by some sarcastic, immature a-hole.
oh, and your not funny.

July 14, 2009 at 2:53 pm
(26) Jerry says:

Calling wine “Jesus Juice”? Sleepovers? This world is an Incredible place. Our Sons are safer now than at anytime in the last 15 yrs. Rich has anger issues and is missinformed but there were 2 sides to M J, we only saw the public side. We know what he was accused of. Who knows what he got away with.The music will live forever but I won’t miss him.

July 15, 2009 at 11:47 am
(27) Louise says:

There are alot of greedy people in this world that will do anything for money. Im not saying that michael jackson is 100percent innocent, because i wasent there at the time so i woudent know. neither would you. IF he is guilty, then may god forgive him, but if he isent, then how do we have the right to parade around accusing him? The point is, we all do not know what happened, and we won’t till the day we die. But as for right NOW, i personally beleive we should be celebrating the man we knew publically, the musician, the dancer and the dedicated charity worker.

July 20, 2009 at 3:36 am
(28) anon says:

you can tell it’s a shadow because of the nature of the light, especially in the zoomed in version. Light bends around corners/ objects, etc, try it with your own shadow, walking by a corner or in front of something. The figure clearly bends in the corner, so if it were actually a ghost, which takes a huge leap of faith anyway, it would be upright and not show this behavior, this has been busted in several fake “ghost” footages. And come on, lets hope, if the reason for ghosts being ghosts is true, that he would never be one, and that he is elsewhere and happy and at peace.

July 22, 2009 at 1:40 am
(29) Lex says:

I think there are ghosts, but yeah: if you watch the complete video on CNN, you see two people standing just outside the bedroom window. It’s only a shadow. Sorry folks. :(

July 24, 2009 at 12:43 am
(30) open-minded says:

Listen people it doesn’t matter what it was rather it be a ghost or something else, Let Michael Jackson rest in peace.

July 26, 2009 at 4:23 am
(31) lee boyd says:

i’m not sure what the vid shows, but i can confirm that ghosts are real. i saw one myself about 5 years ago.

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